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The Undefinable



(that's really a podcast)


A coffee-fuelled ode to alternative and underrepresented ways of loving and having relationships.

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Check out this audio snippet from episode 6. queerplatonia 

Once a live gig-theatre show, now an audio art mini-series.


Six episodes of hot genre-straddling tunes, intimate talk radio, and weird old love letters.


Two dudes. Well, kind of dudes. A garage studio.

A late-night broadcast.

Time slips between noughties beats and 19th century yearning.

The dudes slip between instruments. Everything gets tangled.

Our kind of love is tangled and slippery. Love in the in-between.

Love that doesn’t have language yet.

This is The Undefinable. 


Featuring: George Sand! Audre Lorde! That fella who wrote Moby Dick! The coded language of Polari! Glass prisms! Egg yolks! And more!


Top up your coffee cup, pop us in your ears, and let’s embark on a queer-platonic sonic quest into the unknown future and forgotten past of doing love differently.

Created & performed by

Shamira Turner & Eugénie Pastor
She Goat

Recorded by (the incredibly talented)
Sam Halmarack

Listen on Anchor, Spotify, and more!

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Arts Council England Logo: Supported using public funding by ARTS COUNCIL ENGLAND and the National Lottery
Battersea Arts Centre logo
Camden People’s Theatre logo
Extant Enhance logo

The Undefinable (podcast) was supported using project funding from Arts Council England and the National Lottery. Featured in Camden People's Theatre's #CPTDigital programme November 2020. Originally created as a live gig theatre show, which was commissioned by Camden People’s Theatre, where it premiered in December 2019; supported by Battersea Arts Centre; and awarded Extant’s ‘Enhance Mark’ for integrated access. Images by James Allan. Trailer video by Sam Halmarack. Copyright She Goat 2020.

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Also check out our Undefinable EP
live recordings of the songs from
the theatre show,

in Camden, winter 2019.
(and bonus treats on Bandcamp)

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